OK, so, back to the discussion from yesterday. I really hope you’re not bored of my bread nerdiness yet!
To recap: we tried both Artisan Bread in Five Minutes a Day and No-Knead Bread, and No-Knead is definitely the superior bread. It has a longer rise, and that out of the fridge, which means superior development and thus better flavour. It is cooked in a cast iron pot, which works better than any amount of fuss with steam and a domestic oven. But it’s still just great white bread, and I won’t bother baking for anything less than sourdough.
There is a lot of unneccessary mysticism around sourdough, and I think that’s why people give up on baking it at home. So here’s the essential information:
Sour ferments are lactobacillus cultures — not born of yeast, but great neighbours. There is no magic trick to them. They’re useful because they taste good, and because they impart a little rise by producing gas: this is how rye breads, which have little gluten, can be cajoled into lightness. The starters used for breadmaking are a convenient double-bill of yeast and tasty bacteria.
Like yoghurt , sour cultures are an ingredient that you can keep alive in a jar in your fridge. They need less than 30 seconds’ effort each week, less than it takes to find an ingredient in the supermarket. Trust me, you CAN fit a sour bread in to “five minutes a day”.
To sum up:
- Simple bread = (flour/water/salt) + lots of yeast + a little time. [“5-minute Artisan” method].
- Elegant, tasty bread = (flour/water/salt) + a little yeast + a lot of time. [No-Knead method]
- Delicious sourdough = (flour/water/salt) + a little yeast + lactobacillus culture + a lot of time.
With only one more step, you can have no-knead, no-babysit sourdough loaf that’s every bit as good as a fancy-pants $5 deli bread. You can have it warm with butter. It is so good. I’m hungry again just thinking about it.
Nom.
Make, buy, beg or steal a sourdough culture. There are lots of different starters for sale on the internet and for a few dollars, you can pick and choose the one that you like best. If you’re in America, specialists sell a range so get something great — my Californian friend Tammi would kill me if I didn’t recommend a San Francisco lactobacillus. For Aussies, there is a baker in Tasmania that sells a great one online. You can also start your own if you have the patience, but I won’t go into that here — I bought mine because I’ve started a number of sours myself and they’ve never tasted as good. Stands to reason: the guy who sold it to me is a master baker and had already done the hard work of finding a great tasting culture.
Stick it in your fridge and feed it once a week: a purchased starter will come with instructions for “waking up”. Mine also came with a long and complex recipe for bread, with several rises, which is awesome if you don’t have a job, children, or anything else but bread in your life. If that is you, good luck to you. You don’t need my help!!
This is our starter –getting a bit low. This photo was taken just before I took out all but 50g, and added 200g each of flour and water — which is the full extent of necessary starter maintenance and should be done weekly — more often if you bake every day and need more starter.
Every time we want a loaf, we break off a heaped tablespoon from the starter and mix it into some of the water required for the recipe. From that point, the recipe is exactly the same.
Sour No-Knead Bread
- 1 heaped tablespoon sourdough starter
- 1.5 cups water
- 3 cups white flour (if you can, buy a bag of organic flour from a health food shop with good turnover — it’s not only better for you, it develops into a better tasting bread.)
- 1 1/4 teaspoons salt
Put the starter into the water and break it up with your fingers.
Add everything into a container:
Make a shaggy dough:
Wait 12 to 18 hours and turf it out on to a floured surface. Stretch and fold (see the video from my last post: I’m not a star at this so I’m not going to show you my sad efforts!)
Wrap it up to rise for two hours in a well floured tea towel. At one hour, pop a cast iron pot in your oven and turn it up to about 210C.
Invert your dough into the pot (be careful with the hot cast iron!). Bake 30 mins lid on, then brown with the lid off (around 15 minutes more). Clean your bench with one of these, it’s a pastry or dough scraper and is worth every cent in a quick cleanup.
Compose smug face.
(The same guys who sell the starter I recommend, also sell scrapers, but kitchenware stores do stock them also.)
After I uploaded these photos, I realised that this last shot is of the rye version*, and I didn’t take photos of the white loaf from folding until after it was baked — here they are side by side.
You can see how the rye is a little more dense. That’s how it’s supposed to look — as mentioned above, rye flour has little gluten and benefits from the sour ferment for even this more modest rise.
Allow to cool, at least most of the way to room temperature, before slicing. All sourdough breads are tastier the next day, if you can wait that long. The cracked surface is made by baking seam side up, the smooth by baking seam down. You can also make fancy slashes with a kitchen knife, should artistry strike.
And that is how you make sourdough bread, as good as any you can buy, without killing yourself or sacrificing your marriage.
I got Dan to watch the No-Knead video and he got really excited about making it himself. From a man who watches my baking as if I’m performing some magical voodoo rite, this is great. (He told me yesterday that he’s never separated an egg. What?? Is it even possible to live 30 years and not separate a yolk from a white?).
Sometimes it’s frustrating to live with a city boy. Other times — like seeing him pick fresh berries for the first time in his life as I did on our honeymoon, or listening to him tell our friends how easy it is to make sourdough bread — it’s awesome.
Anyway. Time for me to leave you alone. You could have set some bread on in the time I’ve been blathering on.
*For a rye loaf:
- 1 heaped tablespoon sourdough starter
- 1.5 cups water
- 2.5 cups white flour
- .5 cup rye flour
- 1 1/4 teaspoons salt
- 1 teaspoon caraway seeds (optional)
You can use the starter with either No-Knead or Five Minute methods — if you want to use it in the latter, I’d recommend substituting one cup of starter for one of the packets of yeast, and baking in a cast iron pot.
March 13, 2011 at 11:48 am
Hi,
Thanks for the great double article.
I have been making no knead bread since the start of the year, we haven’t bought a loaf of bread for 2 & 1/2 months. In Sydney 12 hours seems sufficient time which works well for morning bread.
I’ve been trying to start my own sourdough starter, with varying results, but never got to the point of making the first loaf, it always seems to die before then…
Thanks for the link to the Tasmanian starter (can’t wait for it to arrive)… considered getting some san fran stuff before but i wanted to find an australian starter first.
Thanks again. – gotta get the croissants out of the oven 😉
March 23, 2011 at 2:03 am
Hi, just saw your recipe after a Google search for no-knead sourdough. Are the side-by-side loaves on the rack in your picture baked on a stone? Just double checking, since I’d like to make that shape and it seems it wasn’t baked in a round cast iron pot, right? Looks delicious, and I’m going to get it started right now. Thanks!
March 23, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Hi Becca, actually they were baked in a cast iron pot — they were quite small loaves and I have a big pot.
I would not go back now to using a stone after using a pot. The results are just staggeringly different. Hope it works for you too!
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August 22, 2012 at 2:40 pm
This post is really exciting! I don’t own a cast iron pot but I am keen to invest. I’ve been making sourdough from my own starter for years, and this post seems to suggest that more is possible. I like what I can produce now but I don’t love kneading and I love the look/sound of the results you are getting. I especially love what you said about it turning out just like the picture. That never happens for me 🙂
May 30, 2013 at 9:33 am
I have been making your recipe for sourdough for the last couple of weeks, it is awesome… thank you so much. Do you think if I was going to make some little rolls and cover them in cheese & bacon, that I could sprinkle the topping on for the last 15 min bake with lid off?
May 31, 2013 at 1:45 pm
Thanks for posting this! I have just created a sourdough starter and was wishing I could figure out how to make the five-minute artisan type bread with my sourdough starter. Now I know! I enjoyed the five-minute artisan bread but I want the health benefits of the sourdough culture. I also have enjoyed no- knead bread but I like the idea of having dough ready to go in the refrigerator. Can’t wait to see how it works out! Thank you again!
May 31, 2013 at 3:14 pm
I assume the dough should be loosely covered during the initial 12 – 18 hour fermentation period? If so, what do you use?
May 31, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Also, I’m thinking of combining white all-purpose flour with some white whole wheat flour. Do you think that would make the bread too heavy and dense?
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April 29, 2020 at 12:32 pm
Just found your no knead sourdough recipe. Was one tablespoon of sourdough starter enough to substitute for the yeast? Was the starter fed or unfed?
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January 20, 2015 at 9:57 am
Can you tell me how you feed your starter, or did I just miss that in the post? Do you add flour and water and let it sit out or put it in the fridge? how much do you add and how often? It looked like you said 200g each of flour and water to 50g of starter but I have heard if you add more than 2/3rds new material to the starter it can kill it (so 50g starter, 50g flour, 50g water)? How soon after feeding is it ready to use again? Thank so much, just starting out!!